A Talking Circle with Gloria Steinem: Equity and Inclusion in the Workplace
LEADERSHIP
July 11, 2025
Last week, our founder Dee Poku and founder and CEO of Girls who Code, Reshma Saujani, gathered to host a Talking Circle with the legendary Gloria Steinem at her home. Together, the group held space for an honest look at where we stand on equity and inclusion and what it will take to move forward together.
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The discussion opened with a reflection on the origins of diversity, equity, and inclusion frameworks, originally conceived to serve a broad spectrum of communities. Over time, however, the responsibility for advancing these initiatives has disproportionately fallen to women of color, who are too often expected to repair systemic inequities without sufficient support or shared ownership. The conversation underscored the necessity of intersectionality and the imperative of fostering spaces where all voices are acknowledged and engaged. True advancement depends not on isolated effort but on collective partnership, shared accountability, and the intentional broadening of reach.

The resilience of women entrepreneurs emerged as a powerful theme. Despite deeply entrenched structural barriers, many continue to persevere, propelled by a profound sense of purpose and sustained by communities that offer unwavering solidarity. When anchored in clarity of mission and mutual reliance, even the most formidable obstacles can become surmountable.

Yet, the dialogue did not overlook the pervasive “bravery deficit” that continues to inhibit progress. In an environment where speaking out against injustice often carries significant personal and professional risk, there is a growing reluctance to challenge entrenched systems of inequity. The conversation highlighted the enduring power of individual action and the ripple effect that a single courageous voice can inspire within the collective.

Attention turned to affirmative action, which, despite its intentions, has not always adequately served the communities it was designed to uplift. Participants called for a reassessment of such measures, advocating for a shift from symbolic gestures to substantive tools, actionable policies, and genuine community engagement. Expanding access to financial resources and redesigning educational pathways to equip young people for meaningful opportunities were identified as essential steps toward dismantling root causes and enabling lasting change.

Amid an increasingly fraught political climate, many organizations continue to uphold their commitments to DEI, albeit more discreetly. Consistency, even when unnoticed, remains vital. Storytelling was championed as one of the most effective instruments for advancing this work. By elevating authentic, lived experiences, organizations can humanize difficult conversations, diminish fear within corporate spaces, and demonstrate an enduring commitment to progress.

The group also explored the insidious effects of a zero-sum mentality and the role of misinformation in stalling advancement. Reframing diversity and inclusion as a fundamentally human endeavor, rather than a divisive political construct, can help restore clarity and compassion to a conversation too often distorted by misperception.

Crucially, the concept of bravery was redefined. Courage does not always announce itself from a podium. Often, it resides in quiet acts: mentoring emerging leaders, advocating for fairer systems behind the scenes, or modeling integrity in daily choices. For women and women of color in leadership, simply maintaining visibility and authenticity within spaces that have historically excluded them remains a profound testament to resilience.

Throughout the evening, the importance of community was repeatedly affirmed. Trusted circles of support are indispensable for women navigating isolation or resistance within their industries. Such networks provide not only comfort and encouragement but also a reminder that alternative pathways and independent structures can be designed to uplift and sustain one another beyond the confines of conventional systems.

The conversation further illuminated the intrinsic link between economic agency and courageous leadership. With intention, leaders can wield their influence to expand financial freedom within their teams, advocate for fair compensation, and cultivate environments where others feel empowered to speak candidly and act boldly. This quieter form of leadership, practiced with consistency, can shape cultural and systemic shifts that endure.

Finally, the dialogue acknowledged the unique pressures faced by Black women and women of color within predominantly white industries such as media, fashion, and publishing. The act of staying rooted in purpose and values, even when confronted by resistance or silence, remains an enduring act of defiance and hope.

The Talking Circle closed with a resounding affirmation that progress depends not on any single form of bravery but on countless acts of resolve carried out daily. In times of regression and uncertainty, the steady presence of leaders and communities committed to inclusion serves as a reminder that transformation is possible and that the most profound change often begins quietly and also reliant on the power of shared experience.

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